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Buford
Buford
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6/17/2018
Buford
Buford
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upset

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-park-staffing-20180531-story.html
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ziphius
ziphius
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6/17/2018
ziphius
ziphius
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Sad story and true. And people complain if you impose some small park fee to raise money to help pay for rangers etc.
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tommy750
tommy750
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6/17/2018
tommy750
tommy750
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And California only has a $9 billion surplus this year. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Britain
Britain
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6/17/2018
Britain
Britain
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Sad, parts of the park are being torn up.

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http://icorva.com
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Buford
Buford
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6/21/2018
Buford
Buford
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I worry about the resources being abused and trashed. Even with the full ranger staff there was too much abuse of the area.
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tekewin
tekewin
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6/24/2018
tekewin
tekewin
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Wow. This is shocking. I'd rather have a full staff at all the parks than a half built high speed rail system, but that's just me.
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Buford
Buford
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7/22/2018
Buford
Buford
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There was a disturbing amount of litter, graffiti, vandalism, and campfire damage in a couple places recently.

I don’t know if it is due to less Rangers or more idiots or a combo of both.
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DesertWRX
DesertWRX
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9/17/2018
DesertWRX
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What areas are people finding the most trash and vandalism?
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Buford
Buford
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9/17/2018
Buford
Buford
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DesertWRX wrote:
What areas are people finding the most trash and vandalism?


Culp Valley, Old Culp Valley rd, The Slab, Dos Cabezas, Mortero Palms, Plum Canyon. This was all in mid July to early August.

I revisited Plum Canyon a couple weeks later and found someone had mostly cleaned up the graffiti and filled in the illegal fire ring.

I picked up some trash. Didn’t have room for it all.
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DesertWRX
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9/17/2018
DesertWRX
DesertWRX
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Buford wrote:
DesertWRX wrote:
What areas are people finding the most trash and vandalism?


Culp Valley, Old Culp Valley rd, The Slab, Dos Cabezas, Mortero Palms, Plum Canyon. This was all in mid July to early August.

I revisited Plum Canyon a couple weeks later and found someone had mostly cleaned up the graffiti and filled in the illegal fire ring.

I picked up some trash. Didn’t have room for it all.
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DesertWRX
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9/17/2018
DesertWRX
DesertWRX
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Thanks, I’ll try to see who has adopted those areas for Adopt a Wash/Trail.
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Buford
Buford
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9/18/2018
Buford
Buford
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One terrible example. This graffiti was scrubbed mostly clean a couple weeks later and the fire ring filled in. Lots of stuff like this in various areas.

Thanks for helping keep it clean.

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borrego
borrego
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9/19/2018
borrego
borrego
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This is probably not just due to local idiots. A friend has contacts with the Border Patrol and they say there is an large uptick in illegal immigrant activity (apparently they think the Wall will be built and are getting in while they can)
Note- The BP also says they are finding more illegals armed with AK's and AR's...so be aware out there.
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Canebraker Jeff
Canebraker Jeff
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9/22/2018
Canebraker Jeff
Canebraker Jeff
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Was the trash blanket shoes, water jugs and empty cans of atune (tuna)?
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Buford
Buford
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9/22/2018
Buford
Buford
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Most of the trash I have seen is from idiots. Travelers sin documentos don’t bring couches, old car tires, spray paint, glass beer bottles to abandon, shoot at, or throw in a fire.

As mentioned above, it is easy to see if it is from border crossers due to the contents. I’ve definitely found this kind of litter as well though.
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Canebraker Jeff
Canebraker Jeff
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16 days ago
Canebraker Jeff
Canebraker Jeff
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4 new Rangers now on the job. They are not from here, so we will see how it goes.
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kylekai
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14 days ago
kylekai
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ziphius wrote:
Sad story and true. And people complain if you impose some small park fee to raise money to help pay for rangers etc.
edited by ziphius on 6/17/2018

Their web site mentions a $10 entrance fee collected at the visitor center. I was recently at Death Valley NP, and they had kiosks set up at the park entrances to collect entrance fees. Seems as if similar kiosks at ABSP would be a small investment for a larger return to hire more rangers.
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Buford
Buford
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11 days ago
Buford
Buford
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Plum Canyon left fork needs cleanup again. Some ***** real special people vandalized it Friday night, yesterday morning. They went up canyon lighting plants on fire, left broken beer bottles and cans, used toilet paper, graffiti on the rocks, trash fire still burning...

A small example:

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